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Barbara Terry interview with Marvin Harrison

In 12 seasons with the Indianapolis Colts, Marvin has amassed 1,090 receptions, catching most of them from quarterback Peyton Manning, with whom he shares a number of tandem records. He’s only the fourth play­er ever to catch 1,000 balls in the NFL, and when it’s all said and done, he’ll likely be second only to Jerry Rice. He’s been to eight Pro Bowls in his 12 full seasons and is only the seventh wide receiver with 10 touch­downs. He holds the single season record for receptions with 143, almost nine receptions a game.

What was your first car?

My first car was a Dodge Daytona…not sure of the year. It was a two-tone five-speed, blue with grey stripes down the middle, from the trunk to the front of the hood.

Where do you think that car is now?

I totaled it about a year after I got it, so it is crunched up into metal.

So you can drive a stick-shift?


Now to prod him a little. Marvin is a man of few words. I figured if I could find the right button, something about his collection, I’d get him going.

As I look around your garage, I see that you are a collector of Pace cars.


Okay, maybe that wasn’t the right button, but something about the gleam in his eye and the way his eyes swept over the room when I mentioned pace car told me I was on the right track.

When did that collection start?

For years, I have always liked pace cars, especially Corvettes. I had a problem distinguishing between whether I just wanted to collect Corvettes or to collect pace cars, so I combined the two to make it Corvette pace cars. I am missing three of the years-2004,2005, 2006 – but I will continue to grow as I get more space.

Bingo! Have you tried to find those three missing years?

Yes. The 2005 was at a Barrett-Jackson auto auction in Las Vegas last month. It went for $70,000.1 stopped at $55,000, so it got away. They only made three of those identical cars each year, so it will be rare to get those three that I am missing.

Marvin obviously loves his pace cars. I wanted to learn more of what he knew about them.

What year is the oldest pace car that you own?

A 1978 Corvette pace car.

Then the most recent year is the…

Two-thousand eight. You had to have both.

Okay, that about covered the pace cars. I wanted to find out more about his experience with automobiles in general. There’s more to cars than restoring them.

What type of music do you listen to while cruising down the road?

I just like to relax to R&B. Anita Baker is one of my favorites. Good choice, yes. I listen to the more relaxed music than the upbeat and up-tempo music.

I’d try to push his buttons, get him going a little, see what makes a guy that catches nine footballs a game and still goes over the middle against linebackers twice his size tick.

So you listen to baby-making music?

I would not say that. Just relaxing music.

Marvin giggled at my joke and was definitely loosening up. Now I could find out what he liked besides Corvettes. Certainly, there was more to the man than a passion for ‘vettes.

Other than the Corvettes, what cars are you passionate about?

The Buick GNX. That is the ultimate, being as they only made 547 and there are only about 200 left in existence. They are numbered and I happen to have car number 88. It is on the dashboard.

Eighty-eight is Marvin’s number for the Colts, a number that most certainly will be retired by the Colts when his playing days are done. He even wore number eight in college at Syracuse, when he was catching passes from Donovan McNabb.

Really? Was that coincidental?

I wanted the car number 88. The odds of that happening were slim to none. A guy in North Carolina had the car and I bought it from him in North Carolina.

How did you find it?

A friend of mine who is also in the car world told me that this guy had it.

Looking around the room, I noticed other cars, too…cars he hadn’t yet mentioned, but had gone to the trouble of purchasing and restoring.

I see that you also like Impalas.

Yes. The thing with my Impalas is that they obviously only made three colors-the cherry, the green and the black. I have two cherry and one green. I am missing the black one. I want the black one to be very nice. If I could get the Dale Earnhardt edition in black, that would be my choice, but I have been holding off on getting it.

Ahhh…sports figures, championship-caliber ones, are always competitive. It’s what drives them to succeed in the toughest of all arenas. They love most any game and sport, once bitten by it.

Are you a NASCAR fan?

Not really a big fan, just feel the need for speed.

Speaking of speed, how fast have you driven in one of your cars on the freeway? Marvin giggled as I asked the question. I must’ve hit a nerve.

Pretty fast. I cannot remember the exact top speed, but it was over 100 miles an hour. Nowadays, the way they make cars, it is not hard to get going over 100 miles an hour. I would rather not talk about how fast I was going, but just pretty fast!

I take it you do not like cars that have a governor on them.


Marvin, while certainly wealthy, appeared to be very wise with his money. He didn’t overpay for cars he wanted, but could obviously afford, preferring to wait for a good price. He’d bought this building to convert instead of overpaying for a suburban spread. This made me wonder how he paid for the cars.

Do you prefer to own or lease?

I like to own, definitely own. It depends on what you are buying. If I am buying an everyday car, I like to own. Being as I have my own dealership, I can own and sell my cars. I am not in the lease or own busi­ness, so I will own, then sell and switch out to a differ­ent car.

Would you own and drive a hybrid?

I do not know the power that the hybrids have. I know that they are supposed to be good on gas, but I do not know how much torque and how much power that they have.

I do not think you can put hybrid and torque in the same sentence.

I would probably own one, but I would not use it as my everyday driver.

When you first signed as a professional athlete, what was the first car that you bought yourself?

It was a Lexus LX470 SUV. That was the first car that I bought.

Where is that car now?

It was a lease, so I do not have it anymore. It is long gone.

Ah, so when finance dictates, he’d lease. But his frugal, Intelligent nature tells him to buy outright when possible.

What do you drive as a daily driver now?

I drive an SRT-8 Grand Cherokee – black exterior on a charcoal interior. It is super fast.

Is that your favorite color combo?

No. My favorite color combination is white exterior with a tan interior.

He has a very cheerful attitude, a hint of mischief in his eyes, and, again, is a very intelligent guy. He does have a love for power, though. Most people with a love for power like to work on cars, too.

What type of modifications do you like to do to your vehi­cles?

I like all stock stuff. I like the original window sticker, all of the original details. I do not like anything but stock. One of my cherry-colored Impalas has a little bit of everything done to it because it is my speed car. It has a lot of things added to get more horsepower. Typically, though, I like to keep base rims and everything stock.

How often do you take some of your Corvettes out and around the block?

I take all of them out once a year. Every year, I take at least one out for a weekend or a week.

Tell me about your custom golf cart

You just have to have the ultimate golf cart. When I go to big auctions – whether it is in Carlisle, PA, or Barrett- Jackson in Florida – you have to have a golf cart to get around to look at all those cars. Normally, I rent a golf cart every year, but, from now on, I can just bring my own, just drive it around. It is good to have it. If you have family pic­nics in the park, you can bring the golf cart or even drive it around the house.

I see that it is personalized and very cute.

Yes, it is something good to always have.

Marvin also has a collection of motorcycles, quite a serious collection, just like with the cars.

What kind of bikes do you have?

I have one Hayabusa and five Ducatis. Ducatis are my passion. I also have three Spiders – a yellow one and two silver ones. One of the silver ones is a limited-edition. I started out with a passion for motorcycles – like my Ducatis – but when I heard that the Spiders were coming out, I just had to have three of them for my buddies, and for me, when we ride. The Spiders are a cross between a four-wheeler and a motorcycle.

If you do not currently own your dream car, what would that dream car be?

It is a toss-up between two different ones. For collecting, it would be a Mercedes Benz Gold Wing, but to own and drive every day, it would be a Mercedes SLR McLaren.

What color would you choose?

I would go with a black exterior on a charcoal interior.

How many cars do you think that you have owned throughout our life?

I am in a different realm when you are your own car deal­er. I have owned a ton of cars and I have sold a ton of cars, but the cars that I have personally owned…l would say probably about 50.1 still have about 25 to 30 of them and more to come.

Do you think that you were ever influenced by another teammate’s choice in cars? Did you ever pull up to prac­tice and say to yourself, “I have to get me one of those?’

No, I never have wanted something that someone else has. I have always tried to be the first one to have the hottest car that came out, so, no, I have never been influ­enced by another teammate’s choice in their cars.

How old were you when you got your driver’s license?

On my 16th birthday. On my birthday, I tookthe driver’s test. I did not waste anytime!

Do you get a lot of speeding tickets?

I do get pulled over an awful lot, and to someone’s good credit, it always seems to work out. I have not had a lot of speeding tickets, but I do get pulled over a lot.

Do you have any favorite road trips that you like to take?

I do like road trips, in general, being as I do not like to fly. I do not like the hassle and congestion of going through air­ports. I do not like driving more than eight hours, so any­thing between three and seven hours, I do not mind driv­ing. I like nice scenery, so I like driving through North Carolina and the Virginia Beach area, being as they are very pretty areas. I do not mind driving at all.

What is your favorite charity?

My favorite charity is to help out inner-city youths that do not get the opportunity to go to Virginia Beach. Or here, locally, we have Six Flags Great Adventures and we have Dorney Park. During the summer, when I get to take all the kids from the neighborhood on a bus trip to amusements parks…that is my biggest thrill that I get to do.

What do you have going on right now?

Nothing too exciting other than it is my 13th season. I’m enjoying it. I am looking forward to finishing off this year, and I obviously have a Super Bowl ring.

I was curious. He’d mentioned several times that he’s an entre­preneur, which is common after the playing days. But to be the best receiver of your era AND run car dealerships can’t be easy.

Tell me about your car dealership.

It is a used car dealership; we call it the little rinky-dink used car dealership. We have $3,000 to $5,000 cars that we sell. Being as I have been into cars all my life,

I want to continue. Over time, this is something I will do – sell cars and collect cars. I will always be involved with cars.

You seem to be very passionate about cars.

Yes. I love to sell them and collect them.

What does your family think of your choice in cars?

My six-year-old son, Marvin Harrison Jr., loves cars as much as I do. He has his little Corvette, a four-wheel­er and a little motorcycle. He has all the same things that his dad has.

Does he want to be a race car driver?

He is not into race cars, but he loves his four-wheelers and motorcycles. At the age of six, he knows every Corvette, and knows the name of each and every car and motorcycle. My family and friends love my choice, but my son is the one that enjoys all my cars the most and gets to ride in the passenger’s seat with me all of the time.

Have you ever had any car accidents?

A ton of them, but let’s not talk about them. I have had a couple in my time.

Do you have any funny car stories?

Yes. The limited-edition Buick GNX is a great story. I was shopping around for a GNX for years. I knew they only made 500-plus and they were each numbered. I was just waiting for one. When the time came for me to get the right one, I was lucky enough to get the number 88 car.

How long have you had it?

It has been over a year, now.

How many miles does it have on it?

Thirty-six thousand. A little high for a Buick GNX, but you can hardly find them, so I had to bear with it. It was either get low miles or get the right number. I could not refuse getting the number 88 car. □

Man/in indulged us and opened a huge exterior bay door of the garage where he keeps the majority of his rides in Philadelphia. We pulled inside and there was a giant garage in the old building with a mammoth collection of beautiful, vintage, restored cars. It became evident that this man is very, very serious about his collection. I can’t describe the depth of it. As I found, Marvin’s passion for, and knowledge of, cars was matched only by his passion for his communi­ty – for Philadelphia. His biggest joy is using his cash for inner-city children and biking around with his friends. He could live anywhere in the world and he’s stayed loyal.

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Barbara Terry interview with Natalie Gulbis

Natalie Gulbis has been a golfing phenom since an early age, introduced to the sport before she was five years old. She played her first LPGA event as an amateur at the tender age of 14 and joined the tour as a pro at 18 while attending college. She’s also a part-time model and builds motorcycles with her dad. She has a love of trucks, big cars and classic muscle cars.

What was your first car?

My first car was an ’83 Ford Bronco. It was in college, my second semester. My parents bought me the Bronco.

What color was it?

Navy blue exterior with a tan interior. It was an Eddie Bauer and I loved it. I’ve always liked big trucks and cars.

Was it a full-size Bronco?

Yes. Then, when I turned professional, I bought a Tahoe. A 1999 two-door Chevy Tahoe.

Do you play for the most part now?

Yes, now I just fly. It’s so International. We play more outside the United States than we do inside the United States.

Your two-door Tahoe, did it have a cloth or leather interior?

Cloth. Bright red, big rims, it was really tall. I felt safe in it. I’ve always felt safe in big cars and trucks.

I wondered what happened to it, she seemed to like it so much.

I love those. Great choice.

The next car I bought was on eBay. It was a Harley Davidson truck, a 100th year anniversary truck. I was obsessed with it. It was silver and black. I looked everywhere for it for about four to five months, then found it on eBay. I flew my dad out to Texas and he drove it back to Vegas. I still have it.

That’s awesome!

Yes. This is actually the first car I’ve had, the Lexus you are shooting today. I’ve had trucks for eight years of being professional; I’ve had an Escalade and an Expedition. I would just keep on changing out big cars and big trucks. I would take my car out on the road to tournaments, but now I won’t. Now we have an International schedule. I used to drive to all of the tour­naments, so I always had a big vehicle.

And you sold it?



I kind of turn them over. Sell them or give them to fam­ily, but turn them over.

Do you like leasing or owning your vehicles?


Because of the equity factor or the fact that the vehi­cle is yours and you can do whatever you want to with it?

So I don’t have to make another payment!


(LAUGHTER) Yes, that’s a good thing. How old were you when you got your driver’s license?

I was 16. My parents couldn’t afford to get me a car, so I went to college without one. In my second semester, my parents surprised me with a car for my birthday. That was my 18th birthday. I was a freshman.

What do you drive now?

Now I have a Lexus 350is, which is the car you’re shooting today.

Awesome. How long have you had the Lexus?

A few months. I just sold an Escalade and got it.

How well do you like being in a smaller vehicle?

I love it. It’s so fun having a car. I can’t believe how easy it is to buzz around in it.

It’s easier, but different, if you’re used to sitting up high in trucks. It’s a different feeling. When you used to travel going to tournaments, what was your favorite road trip?

My favorite city in the United States is Los Angeles. I’m from Sacramento, California, but I love L.A. I pretty much like driving all over the U.S. I’ve been cross-country, prob­ably, five times. I spent a lot of time on the road. I’ve been on the road since I was 14 playing in tournaments.

Can you drive a stick shift?

Yes. And now the Lexus that I have has the paddle, so I learned how to drive with the paddle shifter. It’s so much easier than a stick. I learned howto drive a stick a couple years ago. I had a TV show on The Golf Channel and my dream car at that time was a Dodge Viper. I said I wouldn’t buy a sports car until I learned how to drive a stick, so my producers on the show surprised me and brought me a Viper for a weekend, and it was a stick. They actually set it up because they wanted to shoot me learning to drive a stick. I drove it around Vegas all week­end, stalling it out. It was fun. That’s how you learn, though. Usually, you don’t learn on a Viper.

So you were grinding the clutch…screeeeeeeech.

Well, I was doing okay. They started to shoot and said, ‘You’re ready’ and started me out going up a hill.

Oh no.

Yeah, a big old hill.

And to learn on a hill is impossible, especially at a stoplight with a car coming up behind you. You feel like, ‘How am I going to do this?’

And I have another car, a ’68 Mustang Fastback that is in showroom condition. I keep at my parents’ house.

I wish we could have shot that! Sweet!

They don’t drive it much, maybe take it to a show if there’s one nearby. I’ve always liked the old classic Mustangs.

Is it all original or has it been restored?

No, it’s been restored and we put some extra bells and whistles on it.

How long have you had the Mustang?

Five years, but I only drive it when I go home to Sacramento. My parents make sure that it’s kept up because I’m not home very much. I’m on the road 90 percent of the time.

How many miles does it have on it?

About 18,000, not many.

What color is it?

Bright red, Ferrari red. I’m going to put white stripes, racing stripes, over the top next time I go home. I used to go to car shows all the time. You go to different cities, you get to see different cars.

Oh, yeah, get different ideas on how to restore clas­sics. What’s your favorite color combination with cars?

I tend to buy black cars over and over again. I like the blue Viper with the white racing stripes. Definitely, the Mustang I’m putting those stripes on, but I’ve tended to buy black cars for the last seven or eight years.

When you were a teenager, before you got your dri­ver’s license, you probably thought about cars and thought, “Wow I’d like this.’ What was that dream car? Was it a Lamborghini, was it a truck with big rims? What really caught your attention?

A white Lamborghini with tan interior where the doors went up. And I thought the Camaros looked like that — had the same slant, and looked like it. I thought one day I could realistically get that when I became a pro golfer, but I didn’t. Then I set a standard and decided that when I won my first tournament, I would buy a Viper. In 2007, when I did (win), I threw a big party, but I’m not home enough to feel I can have a car like that. Maybe one day, when my life slows down a little bit. I go to car shows, and they have great Lamborghinis and Ferraris at the museum here in Las Vegas.

Isn’t there a Ferrari dealership in one of the hotels here?

Ferrari is inside the Wynn and Lamborghini is inside the Palazzo, but I love classic cars. One of the maga­zines I get when I travel is the Du Pont Registry. Many athletes love classic cars. My favorite part of Cribs is when they show the cars.

(LAUGHTER) Yeah, it’s funny. When I started this book, I didn’t want all spectacular cars. I wanted some different cars, like Sugar Ray Leonard has a Smart Car out in LA. He’s driving this little bitty white Smart Car all over Los Angeles, it’s hilarious. It’s cool, though. What about car accidents? Ever had a car accident?

No. No car accidents, no speeding tickets, knock on wood.

No speeding tickets?

Nope, no tickets. I do not think I have ever even gotten a parking ticket.

Have you ever been pulled over and talked your way out of a speeding ticket?

One time. I was on my way to the airport about 4:30 one morning to get on a plane to go play a tournament in Singapore, and the officer said, ‘Natalie, where are you going so fast?’ I told him I had to catch a plane to Singapore and he let me go with a warning.

That was nice of him.

Yes. My management team, I think, currently has an over/under on when I’m going to get a ticket in my Lexus.

Would you ever own a hybrid?

Yes, absolutely. I think the next car I get will be a hybrid. They used to be so small, but now that you have choices. I’ll probably get a Lexus hybrid. They’re beautiful and so quiet.

They’re sweet yes. What kind of music do you listen to when you are driving?

A combination. I like classic rock and top 40. Now that I have satellite and regular FM, I’m always changing. It’s easy with a touch screen.

How many cars do you think you’ve owned throughout your life?


That’s pretty sweet. Have you ever looked at another golfer’s car and thought you might need to get what they have?

No. I never see the other golfers’ cars, but I do see celebri­ties’ cars on TV. All tricked out. I just saw on the last Cribs, Kim Kardashian had a white Range Rover with white seats with pink trim, and pink on the rims iLAUGHTER) ..yeah, but it was custom and it would be nice to have custom stuff.

Leading right into my next question. Speaking of custom, what do you like to modify on your cars when you get them straight from the factory? Is it rims you want first or an upgraded stereo system? What do you find that you’re not happy with completely, as far as factory goes?

I like to upgrade everything. I like it supercharged. I like to change the brakes, put all high-performance stuff on, high-performance tires with the biggest rims that I can fit, but still make manage. I have never had bigger than 22 inches, but I’ve seen them. Definitely leather seats. If I can fit TVs in there somewhere…I’ve always had SUVs, so I had TVs in the back for group travel with a pile of DVDs.

Well, with that you know that they are sitting in the back seat and occupied. They’re entertained while you are driving.

Now, a navigation system. I don’t know how you can travel without a navigation system. I used to have my little Garmin, but now I get navigation systems in the car. Tinted windows. You know, Nevada is more lenient than most states. You can get the windows tint­ed very dark here, but then if you drive that car in California… ticket! You have to be pretty careful, being as different states have different regulations. Now I take off all the logos, too, all except for the one Cadillac symbol. I like a clean look.

How fast have you driven in a car?

Donald Trump let me take his Ferrari out at a tourna­ment a few years ago, and I’d say 150 or 160.

Was that on the Long Island Expressway?

No, it was in West Palm Beach. He’d just gotten a new Ferrari, and for our tour championship, we got to stay at his hotel and we got to play at his golf course. He has beautiful cars, and a friend and I got his car for a night. I’d like to drive on a track once. I know they have a racing track here in Vegas, and I’d like to do that one time. You know, where you can actually take a car out on a track.

If you ever want to go to one of my off-road races, let me know. I’ll take you.

Really? Do they have them here?

Yeah. I just did the Vegas To Reno back in August. The way the course was mapped out it came out to be


Yeah. Not on the road, but up in the mountains, on the sides of cliffs doing 80. We raced the Ford Raptor truck, the only Raptor they modified for racing. Off- road is fun, but it’s not very glamorous. If you don’t mind eating dirt for a few days…

Okay, speaking of your Tahoe, it was lifted. Did you put the lift kit on it?

I bought it that way.

What do you have going on right now, or what is your favorite charity?

This year, I got to be on Celebrity Apprentice, which was fun because I got to play for my favorite charity. The Boys & Girls Club. Now that the off-season is here, I have more time to spend here and in Sacramento where my parents live, and I’ll spend more time with the kids here and there. I’ve got great sponsors. My largest sponsor is Addidas. (Others are) Taylor Made, Cannon, Outback Steak House, Mastercard, 24 Hour Fitness, Sky Golf and Winn Grips, which are two golf companies. I do stuff with Addidas Eyewear. I got to design an Addidas shoe for 2010. That was exciting.

That’s cool. When does it come out and where?

In January, I think all over the world. You always have a dream of having a shoe.

(LAUGHTER) Yeah. Why did you choose Vegas?

I chose Vegas because my coach is here. Butch Harmon lives in Vegas. I came across this area of Lake Las Vegas, which doesn’t have the feel of Vegas. You have a man-made lake, beautiful homes and a sense of community. You’re a half an hour away from the strip and anything and everything you could imagine. There’s great concerts, spas, restaurants and shop­ping.

An international airport

Yes. There’s a lot more to Vegas than just the strip. You can go hiking in Red Rock. There’s skiing a half-hour from here.

Great spas.

(LAUGHTER) Yes. I would love to check out every spa in every hotel.

That’d be a book in itself.

Yes. It would make a great TV show. Get paid to do it and order every treatment on the menu.

Tell me about your motorcycle.

One of my favorite toys that I built with my dad is a custom bike. It’s beautiful. It has caricatures of me and my dad, and it is a retro baby blue. They actually had it on display at Treasure Island. They’ve shown it across the country at different motorcycle shows and now it’s at home. One day, I’d like to have a room where you can have it up on display.

You don’t ride it?

No, it’s too beautiful. My dad rides it when my parents come to visit me here in Vegas. It was on display for almost a year on the strip.

That’s neat. Have you ever had a bike you rode a bunch?

No. Being on tour, you cannot really take chances. Yes, you have to be extra careful with the body.

I was excited to meet Natalie knowing that she was not only an accomplished athlete, but a lover of horsepower. She was gracious, sweet and inviting/ A hot lady that knows her cars!

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Barbara Terry interview with Breaux Greer

Breaux Greer, like his friend Dan O’Brien, who introduced me to him, is a world-class athlete. He is an eight­time American javelin-throwing champion who holds the American record with a toss of more than 90 feet. He is an exceptionally in-shape, fun human being who enjoys his life to the fullest. Globally, he is ranked as the ninth greatest javelin thrower of all time.

What was your first car?

Let’s see. My first car was a Toyota Celica. It was in high school – an older car, obviously. I went to high school in, like, ’91 and I think it was an ’87 or ‘88. It was fast. It was one of those cars that, if you turn the air conditioner off, it goes faster. That’s how cool that car was.

That was a very nice car for high school.

Yeah. Well, I mean, I worked hard. Ever since I was 13 years old, I had a steady job. I literally had to keep money going through the family. It was just me, my two sisters and my mom, growing up, so somebody had to make some money. I actually had a little extra cash to buy a car with. I was always working, since I was a lit­tle kid.

Was it an automatic or a stick shift?

It was a stick.

I decided to get a ribbing in. After all, he had thrown me into a lake that was close to the photo shoot that we’d had with him earlier in the day.

How well can you drive a stick?

I can drive a stick pretty darn well. Yeah, it’s funny because, whenever I was learning, I learned on this really crappy car. I don’t remember what it was, I wanna say it was a Buick, but I don’t even know if they have a stick-shift Buick. I’m here, sitting at a red light, and I’m probably 12 years old at this time. My mom’s, like, cool, just drive. I revved it up so hard because I didn’t want to stall it because we were on the high­way. I did it and I just spun around on the highway. We went in a ditch and we came back out. I told my mom, ‘Get in the drivers seat. I’m done with this thing.’ I didn’t drive for a while after that.

And how old were you when this happened?

I was about 12,1 think. I had big responsibilities when I was a kid.

Do you find that the hard work ethic that was taught to you as a youngster has helped shape you into the exceptional adult that you have grown up to be?

Absolutely. You know, that’s the thing. Growing up, whenever all my friends – being in high school or jun­ior high – they got to go to parties and do all that stuff. I had to work because I would help my mom pay the mortgage, even at such a young age. I didn’t have the freedom a lot of other kids had, so it made me grow up a lot faster and appreciate everything I got. I just men­tally grew up. I didn’t have the leeway and do stupid stuff like all the other kids. It kept me out of trouble, kept me out of jail.

How many cars have you had since that first Toyota?

I moved on to a Civic after that.

Okay, time for another ribbing.

Why did you choose a Civic?

It was just an easy car with gas and mileage. I was doing a lot of work in different places, so I needed a car that didn’t take too much gas. And that was the most low- maintenance car. I had that and I’ve had a Tahoe, I’ve had aZ28, which was probably my favorite car-a Camaro Z28 – which I had souped up. It was really fast. That’s how I lost a lot of money, paying for gas with that one.

Did you have the 5.7-liter in the Camaro?

Yes I did. It was a really fun toy car. Then I got this, and this has been a really easy car. I wanted to get a bigger car, but I didn’t wanna go for a Tahoe and I didn’t wanna go for a regular car. This is kind of in between and it’s got the big Corvette engine in it. My dog and my javelins fit in it, so it is just perfect for me.

It’s a Trail Blazer?

Trail Blazer SS. This one has 425 horsepower, so it’s a fun little toy. It sucks up gas like crazy.

Well, with that engine, what do you expect?

But it’s fun. It’s just a fun little toy.

What year is it?

It’s an ’07.

What’s your favorite color combination? Obviously, this one is black on black, so do you always gravitate towards this particular color combo?

Yeah. Im always black on black. Ive seen a lot of white cars, and white cars are looking good right now. They tend to stay fairly clean out here in the desert.

Like the white diamond color?

Yeah. Some window tint and some fatty rims, and that baby shines.

Speaking of rims, what type of modifications do you like to do on cars that you own?

Every car I’ve ever had, I’ve put rims on. Every single car I have owned, I put limo window tint on it. Always gotta have a sound system and, every once in a while, I tweak the engine. This is the first car I’ve had that I didn’t put different rims on it. The rims on it are great. I had a supercharger in this car that I’m gonna put back in. I was gonna sell it, but I’ll probably just buy another car and keep this as a Gracie car, to tow her around in – Gracie, my dog. So I might as well put it back in. It’s really fun when you put another 80 or 100 horsepower in.

When you were a kid, did you have that dream car? Lamborghini, Porsche? Was there a particular flashy car that you thought you would always buy when you got older?

I think I’m like a lot of people that, whenever they saw Gone in 60 Seconds, everybody wanted an Eleanor. Strangely enough, I saw that car last night. I’m just sit­ting there, thinking, “Wow, that is just an unbeatable car. If I could just have that one car, I would be com­pletely happy.’

Simeon Rice has an Eleanor that he is restoring.

I love those. You cannot beat them.

What kind of music do you listen to when you’re driving?

I listen to a lot of Howard Stern now. But, as far as music goes, I listen to everything. My favorite of all time is Brian McKnight, strangely enough.

Oh, I know. He is great! Cool, grooving music.

Yeah, I know. But you just wouldn’t picture a guy like me because I also listen to Marilyn Manson. I can’t really get into country, and jazz never did it for me. Anything with a piano or acoustic, or the complete opposite – anything that’s really loud and obnoxious. I really like all of those.

From the sounds of it you like variety; you like to mix it up.

I like the whole gamut.

How do you know Dan O’Brien?

He’s in track, and in the track community. We’re all a family and he’s obviously one of the top athletes to ever set foot on this planet. To me, he’s just another guy, but if I take a step back. I’m, like, ‘Holy cow, that’s Dan O’Brien. That’s the guy that’s done so much.’ He lives by me, so while he’s training, I’m training. It’s just, like, you run into him and it’s, ‘Hey, how’s it going.’ He’s a good role model for a lot of people to have. He’s just freakishly amazing. I mean, he could still make the Olympic team if he wanted to. That’s how good of an athlete he is.

This one had me curious.

What do you think of hybrids and would you ever own one?

Yes, I would. I would own a Tahoe hybrid now, if some­one would give me one. I’ve got no problem with them. It’s just going to keep getting better and better; it has to. But I wouldn’t own one of the small, funky hybrids. I don’t mind them; whenever I see somebody driving them, I’m think­ing, They’re smart.’ It doesn’t fit my personality. I like to burn gas.

Right You like the horsepower. Do you get a lot of speed­ing tickets?

I rarely get speeding tickets. The thing here, especially in Scottsdale, you know where the flash cubes/speed traps are.

I was thinking it had been a miserable trip.

I think I’ve gotten three here in Arizona in the last five hours.

You pass them and you just see the big flash come out of nowhere.

I don’t know how you guys deal with it here. I constantly speed, break the law and they’re everywhere here.


Well, that’s the thing. If you lived here, you’d know where they are. That’s a good thing. In Atlanta, you’re driving around and you got cops hiding in woods.

Yeah, but you can talk your way out of it in Atlanta, among other places in the country.

I’ve gotten really lucky at times when I’ve gotten pulled over. Somehow – maybe I was on TV at the time – the guy’s, like, ‘Oh, you’re the guy off of TV.’

Oh yes, that does help!

Every once in a while, it’s gotten me out of trouble.

Tell me about your doggies.

My dogs are my life. I had a dog for 18 years and, in February, she passed. Gracie was lucky enough to be brought up with her for a year? so it was really cool. This is Gracie; she’s a Presa Canario, which is the rarest dog on the planet. She’s a little bit over two years old and she’s my everything. She literally is. Friends sometimes come and go; people come and go out of your life. But there’s two things I wouldn’t mind spending my money on – it’s my dog and food – the only two things I need to survive.

They are great and I feel the same way. Tell me what all you have going on in your life right now.

Currently, I’m just kind of idling by. I still have a cloth­ing line, I still have a medical patent business in New Orleans, and I’m seeking out a couple movies here and there and doing the track thing. Trying to stay busy.

How fast have you gone in a street car?

I got up to 167 in my Camaro. It was outside of New Orleans and I realized that I had cut off an hour and some change of driving time on that trip. I didn’t real­ize I was going that fast because you’re sitting on the road and you just tend to not realize it in a Camaro. It just sounds like you are idling. So, 167 was my top.

That might have been the fastest of all the athletes I’d inter­viewed.

Wow, very impressive, Mr. Greer.

Yeah. I didn’t realize I was going that fast, but I looked down at the speedometer and was, like, ‘I should slow down.’ Normally, I’m an 80-mile-per-hour guy. Not too fast, just fast enough to get people out of my way and keep cruising.

Have you ever looked at another athlete’s vehicle and thought ‘I have to have that?’

No. Actually, I haven’t. Maybe because I live, literally, a minute from Barrett-Jackson. Those are the cars that extreme enthusiasts have, so I get to go see the top cars of the top cars. If you have an athlete driving a Ferrari, big deal. That’s not history, that’s just a Ferrari. Essentially, anyone could get that if they have money. They don’t make the ’69 Camaros anymore. You get one of those in perfect condition, and you’ve got a car. I tend to, every once in a while, envy those kinda guys. Strangely enough, they tend to all live in Scottsdale because I see them all the time. There’s a lot of money that’s gone through Scottsdale.

Have you ever been involved in an accident?

Yeah, I have. I was at a car wash this one time, getting my car cleaned up and polished for an athletes/cars book interview and photo shoot. Oh, that’s right, it is your book. I was getting it cleaned up and then I see an Escalade coming out of the cash wash shoot. It just gets finished power washing and it starts rolling out. It just keeps picking up speed for a good 30 yards. It keeps coming and just smashes right into my car. I got a new bumper out of it!

(WE BOTH CHUCKLE) Do you think you’ll ever pull the trigger on the Eleanor?

If I have a ridiculous amount of play money. It is still hard for me to think about because it is a car, but I would like to have it. Not necessarily keep it for the rest of my life; I’d just like to one-time own it. Just play around with it, not put many miles on it, just say, ‘Hey, this is my car. Check this thing out.’ There’s something to be said to that, because that is history. But, like I said, I like to throw my money towards investments and not having to work the rest of my life. Maybe when I’m an old man and I’m extremely comfortable, then, yeah, I could throw some money towards that way.

Do you have any favorite road trips you like to take?

Absolutely. Driving from my house out here to the hills. I try to do this daily because it’s just refreshing. It tends to unwind the mind without you knowing, just because it’s so beautiful out here. I don’t even realize it because it’s only, like, a 15-minute drive and it goes by so fast. This is surely my favorite place to drive. I mean, you look across and see forever. It’s peaceful. I don’t think enough people get enough time to themselves, just to unwind. They think they do, but they really don’t.

What’s the craziest thing that you have ever done in a car?

I think one of the craziest things was, me and one of my friends were in my Camaro in college and he was in the passenger seat and I was in the driver’s seat. We were only going, like, 65 and I asked him to sit in the driver’s seat. So, as we’re driving, he switches over and I, like, let the gas petal get up to 100. He’s, like, one of those crazy guys, so I climb out on the windshield and he goes to 100. Thinking back, it was really dumb, but it was actually kinda cool. On the front of the car, you’re going 100 miles per hour past other cars, hanging on to the windshield wipers. I thought it was kinda cool.

Have you ever been into motorcycles?

No, only because I know what would happen if I got ahojd of one. The two evils of those are those that have fallen and those that will fall, and I have no doubt that I would press my luck. I have that much common sense to say no, I’m not going to get into that.

On my way there, I got a call from the cardiologist that my beloved first dog, Rocky, had died from heart failure. I was heartbroken, but couldn’t cancel the interview. Breaux took the time to tell me about never getting over losing your first dog, but gave me insight on getting another one. He is a big, tough guy, but he’s down-to-earth and has a big heart.

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Barbara Terry interview with Bill Goldberg

Bill Goldberg has an interesting background. He is a former NFL player, former WWE Heavyweight Champ, is a car aficionado and a humanitarian. Like Hulk Hogan, Bill Goldberg was one of the biggest phenomenons to hit the professional wrestling world. Unlike Hogan, he did it from the first day he stepped into the ring, starting a career hotter than any pro wrestler before or since he entered the squared circle. Goldberg, as he was known in the ring, catapulted to unparalleled success. He’s a former two-time WWE Champion and was the first person ever to hold the WCW and WWE Heavyweight Championship at the same time. Since then, he has established an acting career and has hosted a television show about vehicles called “,Bull Bun” on Speed TV. He does a tremendous amount of charity work, and is a true “car” guy.

What can you tell me about your first car?

It was in a lot better shape when I got it than when I got rid of it. It was a 1976 Pontiac Trans Am. It wasn’t exactly what I wanted, but it was a nice first car, for sure. I think that started the addiction. My family has an affinity for automobiles.

How old were you when you got the Trans Am?

Sixteen. My dad said, ‘Get a 3.0 (GPA) and a job, and I’ll get you a car.’ I had a 2.9 and I got a job at McDonald’s, so he got me a car.

What exactly were you doing at McDonald’s?

Before I got fired, I was flipping food.

Why did you get fired? (LAUGHTER)

Because I was eating all of it. It was ridiculous to me that they had a timer on it, and after five minutes, they would throw it all away. It was still good – at least for half an hour.

And, back then, our parents made us clean our plates. That was the rule of thumb.

That wasn’t necessarily what I was thinking about. I was thinking, ‘Man, they’re going to throw away this quarter-pounder with cheese. I’m eating it.’ Or my buddy or dog could eat it.

Is there a car that you bought as a gift to yourself after your wrestling career took off?

Yeah, pretty much every one that I’ve bought since I started wrestling.

Does one of the first ones stick out in your memory more than the others?

I’d say the most memorable experience that could be categorized as rewarding myself for my wrestling duties came when I was wrestling in Japan. I was simultaneously on the phone with a guy named Bob Johnson, who got me involved in the car business. He was buying me vehicles at the Barrett-Jackson Auto Auction in Scottsdale and, at that time, I bought that Boss 29, that Lawman Mustang, I bought a ’70 Z28 Trans Am and a ’68 Chevy Camaro. I did that to reward myself for going over and enduring the business of wrestling in Japan. As a matter of fact, it’s a really funny story, when I got frustrated with the business dealings overin Japan-my agent was with me-he would look at me and say one word. It was Yenko. It would totally change my demeanor and make it bearable.

Why Yenko?

Because I knew the money I was making over there would allow me, when I got home, to drive one of the three grotto blue RS/SS Yenko Camaras.

So it was kind of a focal point or motivation for you, then?

I’d say, at that point, darlin,’ that was a mild understate­ment.

What do you drive now? What do you use as a daily driver?

A ’95 S600 Mercedes and a ’99 Dodge 2500 Ram truck. I split my time between those.

Tell me about this one-of-a-kind car that is snuggled in your garage.

The story begins with a guy named Al Extrand. If you want the story straight from my mouth, I’ll tell you, but you can also go to, which is a Web site about the best Mustangs on the planet. Basically, a drag racer named Al Extrand, who was a corporate lawyer for Chrysler, developed this idea that he wanted to branch out and make sure his legacy was not defined by how fast he could travel a quarter-mile. He was tired of seeing ser­vicemen come back from the war to spend $3,500 on a Hemi, only to wrap it around a tree a few weeks later and die. He wanted to teach guys to drive. He also, at the same time, wanted to boost the morale of the troops overseas.

I don’t know the exact details, but Chrysler didn’t want to extend the money to pay for the program, so he obviously quit Chrysler and went to Ford. Ford did the tour and the tour involved two Boss 29s and a V* Super Boss. They were blown and injected cars with parachutes, roll bar and drag slips. Radiator and batteries were relocated in the truck. Other than that, they were pretty stock. They had paint schemes – the two Super Bosses were red, white and blue as a U.S. tribute. And they set up six or eight cars, actually with driving courses, on the bases and they would teach these guys to drive, to an extent. They also got to drive the Bosses right outside the VA hospitals and down the tarmac of an aircraft carrier. I know the USS Coral Sea, for sure, because I have pic­tures of it. It boosted the morale of the troops to see a red, white and blue Mustang do a 190-mile-an-hour quarter-mile in eightseconds. There’s something about that that gets the hair standing upon your arms and makes you forget what’s going on around you, maybe.

The big story behind the two Super Bosses is, one got left in the States while one was delivered to the Coral Sea. They proceeded to drop a cargo container on top of it and pushed it overboard, so there was only one left. The General asked Extrand where it was and he sent a C-130 to the States to pick it up and bring it back. Fortunately, they didn’t drop a cargo container on it or it wouldn’t be in my garage. It’s got 1,200 to 1,400 horsepower, 760 miles on it – that’s about it. I’ve got all the documentation on it, original pamphlets that were handed out at the events in Vietnam – unbeliev­able the documentation I have on it. It’s cool, and Al was a great guy. Al and I met, I took it to the Carlyle Ford show.

Another great story. There was this kid. He was taken to see this car when he was 10, in Vietnam. He’s Vietnamese. So, at 12, his parents move to the States, and he gets into the auto industry and goes on to design the new generation Mustang. I reunited the car with Mr. Extrand and the kid, who was now a man, with the car. The last time he saw it he was 10. Unfortunately, Mr. Extrand died on May the 10th, this year. Ironically, I gave the car to my son and my son was actually born on May the 10th.

Oh, wow. How incredible. I thought to myself what the odds might be.

Yeah. I think it was all part of the car and Mr. Extrand’s journey. He was very passionate about it and it’s a great cause. I’m going to use that to its fullest, to get kids involved in automobiles by taking it to some events or just by carrying on its history of patriotism.

It’s amazing how some cars…there are certain car stories that bring people together. And it’s amazing how complex they can be.

Yeah, well, look at the car we just built for the Darrell Gwynn Foundation that got $681,000 at Barrett- Jackson Auto Auction.

That is amazing. Bill. What can you tell me about that?

It was an honor to be able to spearhead the project. I’ve been going through Barrett-Jackson for years. They’re great people over there; they’ve always taken great care of me. They provide the venue, they provide car guys like myself to not only view, purchase and sell the most wonderful cars on the planet, but us car guys can hook up a couple times a year – like a reunion – or once a year, in my case, and wrap our minds around some cool stuff. Barrett-Jackson attracts some cool people. Darrell Gwynn, I met, my first time, at Barrett- Jackson. He was auctioning off a motor, at the time, and the benefits went to the Darrell Gwynn Foundation. I’ve gotten to know him and the founda­tion and, one year, Tony Stewart and I were on stage, and I met a guy and his kids. At the end of the day, he ended up giving me a 1970 Plymouth Satellite. He and I decided to turn it into a charity car because I knew that I could make a few phone calls and I knew a few guys like me in the automotive world that wanted to make a dif­ference. Within two weeks, I assembled a team of guys that ultimately raised a shitload of money for charity in one day. I can honestly say that we probably broke a record that day, from a few guys getting together with some knowledge and ideas about cars. It was for the Darrell Gwynn Foundation, but, at the end of the day, it was for the kids that could and do benefit from the foundation. And to have Richard Petty drive the damned thing onstage was incredible.

It must have been an incredible moment.

Yeah. It was amazing until Richard Petty took his cowboy hat off and put it on my head. But it was incredible. It was awesome. Guys were bidding some serious money. It was a special group of guys working together for a special pur­pose. It was awesome.

What type of music do you listen to when you drive?

I try not to listen to any music unless I’m in my Mercedes because I want to listen to the engine.

Spoken like a true car guy.

It’s not original, but it’s the truth, so…

At any time in your career, did you ever look at another athlete’s choice of car and go, ‘You know, I have to get me one of those.’

Yeah, absolutely. Kevin Greene had a one-on-one copper- ish color Charger Daytona, 1970. That car was awesome. I wanted that car so bad, I wanted it when I saw it. I’d say, ‘That’s the only one.’ I haven’t seen too many guys driving the McLaren FI. That’s the only other one I really want.

Have you had any bad accidents that stick out in your mind?

Nope. I only had one accident, in the snow when a woman’s SUV went out of control. I was driving a 1985 Mustang 5.0, which is very small, so, other than that, no. Did the Mustang make it?

No, it was totaled.

Sad, yeah. Do you get pulled over much?

No. I do so much stuff for the Armed Forces, military, Fire Department and Police Department, I kind of keep that in mind when I’m driving down the road, maybe a mile or two over the speed limit.

What do you think the fastest you’ve been in a car would be?

Shoot… probably 180.

Nice. What kind of car was that in?

It was a…if I tell you, I’d give it away as to where I drove it.

If you want to keep it a mystery, you can.

No, it’s a toss-up between my 2001 twin turbo Porsche or my ’92 turbo Porsche.

What’s your favorite color combination with a car?

That’s easy – black on black. I have 12 vehicles that are black.

Well, there’s nothing prettier than a cleaned up black car, and nothing uglier than a dirty one.

Nothing harder to keep clean, either.

Do you have your eyes on any particular vehicle that you want to buy right now?

A 1994 McLaren FI. It’s not a reality, considering they are so few and far between and they’re worth about a million and a half or so. Think I might wait a bit.

What’s your wife think about your choice of cars?

She loves them. She wishes I wouldn’t get them so big because she’s tiny. She might like more nimble cars. She can drive her ass off, and she likes to drive as much or more than me. She’s a better driver, for sure. She’s fun to watch.

What kind of motorcycles do you have?

A Confederate Hellcat I gave to my wife, so I do not know if I can consider that mine anymore. A couple West Coast choppers.

How many cars do you think that have you owned throughout your life?


How many do you have now?

Twenty-two, I think…no, 20.1 just got rid of two. I might have a couple floating around somewhere. I have 20 cars.

Do you have any favorite road trips that you like to take?

I don’t like to drive these cars very far. My road trips on

Bull Run are far and I’m in an RV.

How often do you start all your cars. Remember, you’re talking to a mechanic.

Shoot…not nearly enough. Once a month, maybe.

No, that’s not nearly enough.

Some of them have been sitting here for six months, some for one month. A Jaguar I bought from my broth­er’s best friend for $12…l got it two years ago as a restoration and it’s been sitting here two years and it’s never been started. I have a couple that aren’t started. I should. If you want to, find some time for me or have someone for free that could come over and start them.

How often do you change the oil in them, even though you’re not driving them 3,000 miles?

Some are just drained, they’re not on blocks. Some of them just aren’t going to be driven, period; they’re just for show purposes. I drive the Lawman and the oil is changed in that once every six months. It seats three people, so I don’t drive it much. There are so many cars here. Unless I had people to watch the estate and work every day, I don’t have the time.

I do have to say, it was nice meeting you and not being greeted by an entourage of assistants.

Life’s too short to have to spend your time with people you have to work with 24 hours a day. I like doing car work, yard work, sitting with my kid. Those are times you can’t get back. I believe I’ve worked hard enough to spend my time with my wife, my son, my animals, my vehicles. I have to take advantage of my time. When it comes to cars, they need maintenance. I’ve just fallen behind.

I’m just giving you a hard time. Do you have anything in the works right now, as far as a charitable cause, to do with cars?

I always do. Be specific. Am I building one to give for charity? I put up a rally to go to Camp Pendleton. The guys at SuperBird are giving the car back next year. I’m going to be standing onstage next year trying to get another $600,000 or $700,000 for the same car we sold last week. I know Alice Cooperand I are building a car for next year, and part of that will go to charity,

I found Bill Goldberg to be one of the toughest looking men on the outside, but a pure gentleman on the inside. When we pulled up to his house the day of the interview and photo shoot, I was in amazement of his extensive collection of clas­sic and one-of-a-kind automobiles. This interview was a blast.

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Barbara Terry interview with Ric Flair

Ric Flair is, by far, the most decorated professional wrestler of all time. He is a 16-time heavyweight champ who has held belts in each and every major league of professional wrestling – from his early days in the AW A, through his glory years in the NWA and WCW, to his final years in the WWF. He’s still considered the best tech­nical professional wrestler of all time.

Known as a jet-setting playboy who rolled from town to town in comfy limousines, Ric is actually a family man and a car aficionado. He has seen highs – such as receiving the key to his hometown of Charlotte, N.C. – and lows, such as recovering from a broken back suffered in an airplane accident., an accident he recovered from, and, with some hard work, won many a title after.

I started with some small talk, but the fact of the mat­ter is, the love of the automobile is like any other love – you never forget your first one, you never forget the one that made your engine race that very first time. I asked Ric what his first car was.

A yellow 1965 Dodge Dart that my parents gave me for graduating high school.

Apparently, if you’re on the road long enough, the first one doesn’t matter as much. Still, I wanted to see if Ric was being coarse or really held a soft spot for that first car.

How long did you keep it?

I kept it for six months, then got a Dodge Road Runner…then I got a Corvette…then I got a Riviera and then I got another Corvette.

A/?/?, so he did remember his vehicles. In precise order and from the beginning. Apparently, he loved them all – not just the first one. Did he collect more? Was this a part of his suc­cess, or were cars his true passion?

Did you have a wrestling career at this point?

No, I didn’t start wrestling until 1972.1 got the Dodge Dart in 1968, then I kept it for a while, then I got that Road Runner, then I got a 1957 Chevy lmpala,then I got a 1968 Corvette. That was a very unusual car, with a 3-2 setup with 435 horsepower. Then I got a brand new Riviera, which was more businesslike when I started selling life insurance. Then I got married in 1971 and I bought my wife a new Volkswagen. And then I got a tricked-out Cutlass for my wife, then I moved to Charlotte and, within two weeks, I bought my first Cadillac – a 1972 Fleetwood Brougham that was black on black.

Now we’re talking – 435 horsepower. Awesome. I noted that each car he bought got more and more detailed. I was curious what he bought after fame set in and if he had spe­cific preferences.

What is your favorite color combination?

I like blue or red.

What do you drive now?

A 2008 Porsche Cayenne Turbo with 7,000 miles – silver exterior on a grey interior.

Why did you choose this particular ride?

I have mostly driven Mercedes recently, and when Steve Austin bought a Porsche Cayenne Turbo, it was real nice. So I drove to a Porsche dealership and looked at it. The Turbos are real fast, with 500 horsepower. How fast have you driven it?

I have driven it 140 miles an hour, but it is a lot faster than that. It is like a sports car, except it is an SUV.

It’s a good thing that it does not have a governor on it like a lot of your General Motors cars do.

Exactly. I do a lot of highway driving in it, and it is a lot of fun to drive here in North Carolina.

What kind of music do you listen to when you are driving down the road?

I like rock and roll, like Bob Seger and Dion. I listen to everything. I even listen to country, but my favorite music is old-time rock and roll, like Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry and the Beach Boys. I listen to everything.

So you are pretty well-rounded in the music arena when you are driving?

I know nothing about the contemporary artists. I obvious­ly know their name, as I see them on TV, but I do not follow them that closely.

Do you have a dream car that you have yet to purchase?

There is not one. I was going to buy a Bentley before I bought the Cayenne, but I like the Cayenne better.

Ooooh. Bentleys! Like a Bentley Amage?

I like the Bentleys, as some of my friends have them, but I got the Cayenne because it is like an SUV. I carry a bunch of stuff in it and I like the look of it, as it is dif­ferent. And there is only one other one like it in Charlotte.

Do you get a lot of speeding tickets?

No, but I used to.

Was that back in the crazy days?

Yes. I had 82 tickets in five years.

WHOA! How do you keep your license like that? Champ or no champ, that’s a ton of tickets. Eighty-two in five years…that must have been before the points system kicked in.

Yes. The judge actually sentenced me to 30 days in jail for it. He called me a habitual speeder. This was in 1983 or 1984. When he said 30 days, I about died.

Well, maybe his size and profession had something to do with him not being sentenced before that. Pro wrestlers don’t exactly live or look like stockbrokers.

Did you go beat him up?

No. I was down there for about an hour. Then they came and got me out. Then I had to go back to my lawyer and go to Superior Court. I ended up going to court for the speeding violations on Christmas Day. Back in the old days, you used to be able to get out of a ticket for $20. We would drive about 3,000 miles a week and we would drive 100 miles an hour.

There it is. Three-thousand miles a week, more than 400 miles a day. That’s wearing out some tires…like driving six Indy500s a week. And, with 82 tickets, he probably rode the cars as hard. Made me wonder how much he learned about cars on all those roads.

How many cars do you think you have owned throughout your life?

Wow, that would be a lot. I started buying about three Mercedes a year in 1984.1 have always had at least two or three Mercedes all the time – the 500s, then the coupe and the four-door – so it is hard to say, but prob­ably 60-something Mercedes. So I have probably had about 100 cars.

Do you prefer to own or lease?

I have done both, but prefer to own.

What is the craziest thing that you have ever done in a car?

I guess that I have done a lot of crazy things in cars, as I have owned two different limousines. I have had a lot of fun in cars.

Pro-wrestling. “Stone Cold” Steve Austin as a buddy. Charlotte, North Carolina as home. Though Hie is originally from Minnesota, he’s lived in the deep South for years.

Do you prefer cars, trucks or SUVs?



I prefer my Porsche Cayenne SUV because you can drive it fast and it has a lot of room, different look and there are only two of them in Charlotte in this particu­lar color.

Funny. Hie Flair. Steve Austin. Hough and tumble grapplers who destroyed themselves inside the square circle for years… You picture them out in a 4×4 with a cooler of beer somewhere. Not in Porsches and Bentleys.

You mentioned that Steve Austin has a Porsche Cayenne.

Yes. Stone Cold Steve Austin lives in San Antonio, Texas.

All the partners and friends you’ve had in the busi­ness – from The Four Horsemen to Triple H – you must have seen some sweet rides in your time. You can’t be the only collector on the circuit Do you think that you have ever been influenced by another wrestler’s choice in cars?

Seeing Steve Austin’s Porsche Cayenne was the first time ever.

As much as they travel, accidents are, sadly, very common for pro wrestlers. Flair had the airplane crash that broke his back and took the life of Bob Bruggers. A good friend of his, Terry Allen, known as Magnum TA, had a career-ending wreck in his Porsche at the height of his career. I wondered if he ever had any bad ones in all those years.

Have you ever had any bad car accidents?

I had a bad accident when I hit a deer going 100 miles an hour in North Dakota in 1973, as it destroyed the car. But no one was hurt and that is the only bad wreck that I have ever been in.

You are very lucky.

Yes, knock on wood.

What is your favorite car that you have owned from the get-go?

The Porsche Cayenne that I have right now.

Do you see yourself buying another Porsche Cayenne Turbo in the future?

Yes. I am going to buy one every year, a new one every year.

Wow, that must be nice, to be able to buy a brand new Porsche every year. That’s my kind of collector I wondered if he was going to switch things up in his new rides or if he’d stick with tried and true

Are you going to go silver again next year or possibly a black-on-black?

I think I will go black on black next year, or I will go with what no one else has in Charlotte because I like to go with the limited color scheme.

Well. You’re a noted, self-proclaimed ladies man. Stylin’ and Profilin’ was always your saying. Have you always been that way? How has this related to your cars over the years? Let’s remember your first date. You picked your girlfriend up. Your parents said, ‘Here’s the car for the night.’ It was your first time driving to pick her up and you were saying to yourself, ‘I am the man, I got wheels.’

I would double date with some of the other kids that had the cool cars and we would have a blast. I grew up in the era of drive-in movies. You are too young to know what that is.

No, we had one in small-town Texas where I grew up, so I am very familiar with the drive-in movie scenario.

We had one every 10 feet when I was a kid. So you get your girl to the drive-in movie and you own them. So, where are they going to go? To the popcorn stand? They can only go there so many times.

Okay, enough of the love life. All the traveling over the years for your work, what have you done for yourself? I know you’re probably road-weary after 3,000 miles a week, but even a heavyweight champ has to have some down time, some family time and vacation time. Do you have any favorite road trips that you have taken cross­country in a car?

I have done so much driving with my kids…when my kids were in sports…I would drive so much and when I was wrestling, we would drive between 2,000 to 3,000 miles a week for 15 to 20 years.

Note: Flair wrestled the bulk of his career in the NWA and WCW. Back then, wrestling promotions were territorial. There was an unspoken code amongst the big promotions – the WWF Inow WWF), the NWA/WCW and the AW A – that you didn’t cross-promote into each other’s territories…until Vince McMahon Jr. changed the game by going national and global. Flair spent most of his career in the deep South with the NWA, until his later years when he went to the national WWF, where he recently retired a legend. Fie started his career in the AW A, which covered the northern Midwest, Great Lakes region.

What highways?

North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West i Virginia, Georgia. From 1974 until 1983 and even when we started flying, I would still do a lot of driving. For instance, if we flew into Dallas, we would then drive to San Antonio,                  Austin, Corpus Christi, and to Houston and back.

Enough for automobiles for a bit. I wanted to see what Bic was j doing in his life now, away from the “sports-entertainment” game.

What do you have to keep you busy?

I do a lot of public speaking and do appearances for Walmart and Coca-Cola. And I am learning how to live an ‘in-control’ lifestyle, which can be a little difficult being as I have been wrestling for 35 years and am used to travel­ing and doing what I want to do. It is a lot, but it is good for ] me to tone it down.

Have you found your inner peace with that?

Yes. I found it a long time ago, but lost it for a while. I can entertain myself pretty easily, so that is always good. I just do not sit at home and mourn. I am a guy that has had to take care of myself so much that I just do not like being alone, so why should I be. I have a wealth of friends and have worked hard, so I do not like sitting at home and watching TV. If you fall off a horse, you have to get right back on it and live life, and I have always known how to do that!

What more is there to Ric Flair, the man away from the ring? I know wrestling was your passion and your life and you love your children and family, but are there other things that drive you – besides cars? What is your favorite charity?

My two favorite charities are “Make a Wish” and “Muscular Dystrophy.” I stay involved in a lot of char­itable-type of organizations, like the troops coming back from Iraq and the process of taking care of our veterans. They come back to terrible health care. I have been involved in the Patriot Gala here in Charlotte that raises money to give to the hospitals to help the men coming back from Iraq. I have been to Iraq three times and Afghanistan once, going to the front lines. Then we do a show.

How long were you heavyweight champion?

I have won 16. The first one was in 1981 and the last one was in 1998. °

All-told, Ric Flair is one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time. The 16 titles is a record that he took from the legendary Harley Race. Flair has influenced and helped numerous pro wrestlers you see today – from Triple H to The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin Iwho once, as just Steve Austin, had hair and LOOKED like the Nature Boy). Flair has lived a spectacular life and possesses a won­derful car collection. His knowledge of cars was matched by his knowledge of wrestling and his hospitality.

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Barbara Terry interview with Todd Eldredge

Todd won six national championships in his amateur figure skating career. He won a gold, silver and bronze at the World Championships – six medals overall. He’s been to three Olympics and has a successful career on the figure skating circuit. Very accomplished, very impressive. The last thing I expected was the car afi­cionado and racing demon that I met when we got together in sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

What do you currently drive?

I drive a 1996 Ferrari 355 Spider, with 22,500 miles on it.

That is a sporty and stylish piece of machinery. Are you the original owner?

Yes. I bought it in June of 1996, right after I won the World Championship. It was a gift to myself.

Well, you have to spoil yourself, right?


I notice that it is red on a parchment-color interior. Is that your favorite color combination?

When I was a kid, I always wanted a Ferrari – just like every kid that looks at cars wants a Ferrari. And, whenever you think of Ferrari, you think of red. So, if it was going to be my first Ferrari, it had to be red. That is how I decided on red.

Do you think that you are going to upgrade to a newer model?

You know what? This, hopefully – barring anything going wrong mechanically with this car – will be in my stable forever, for so many sentimental reasons.

Do you think you will get an additional Ferrari?

Actually, I did have a 575 for a little while, and decided that one was good enough and two was too many.


What is the fastest that you have driven on the free­way?

It was in Michigan. I have gotten this Ferrari up to 165, and I think it tops out at about 185… pretty fast.

WOW. Noted. Todd likes speed, that’s pretty fast – faster than most everybody else I’ve interviewed.

Do you have any paintwork on it?

Just some small paint touch-ups from small rock chips, but, other than that, no.

What age did you learn how to drive?

I learned how to drive when I was pretty young. My mom would have my brother and I drive in the neigh­borhood when we were 13 to 14 years old, just to get an idea of how things work. I always just loved driving cars, driving cars around – driving all kinds of stuff, like go-carts. So I was about 13.

He started young, drives fast, has a Ferrari…definitely sounds like a guy that is deeply bitten by the car bug.

What was your first car?

My first car was an Acura Integra. After I won the national championship in 1990, I went on tour and made some money. With that money, I bought myself my own car – to give myself some independence, and get out and do whatever I wanted to do.

What color was the Acura?

It was kinda like a teal bluish/greenish kind of color.

Was it an automatic or a stick shift?

It was a stick shift. It was kind of a bold move on my part because, at the time, I didn’t really know how to drive a stick shift It was one of those jump in with both feet and ya gotta learn.

Let’s see how quickly he adapted to a stick, how mechanically inclined one of the best figure skaters of the past two decades is.

Did you bum the clutch out in it?

Fortunately, I never did. I practiced a little on my dad’s truck before I bought it, then said, ‘Here we go, I will get it, and it is going to be more fun. And I need to learn how to do it anyway.’

What kind of back did your dad have?

I think it was a little Nissan.

Curious, with athletes, music is a way to escape while they drive, watch scenery, sing, whatever. But a figure skater deals with music at the office.

What type of music do you listen to while you are driving out on the freeway?

I think most Ferrari guys would say you do not need to lis­ten to music. You can just listen to the engine.

Listen to the hummm?

Yes! I do listen to music. I love Matchbox 20, Train, all kinds of other music…you name it I have to skate to all types of music, so I am always listening to different stuff to hopefully skate to sometime, or to just enjoy.

No Willie Nelson or Meryl Haggard?

No, not really a lot of country.

What is the craziest thing that you have done in a car?

The craziest thing that I have done in a car… hmmmm…hmmmm. I usually do not get too crazy. The scariest thing that I have done in a car was to back it into a wall at about 80 miles an hour at Sebring Race Track not that long ago. Actually, in a Corvette that I take to the race track. Unfortunately, Corvettes and puddles of water and hydroplaning do not go together. I backed it into the wall, which freaked me out a little bit, but it is all right. No big deal.

Interesting. Yes, Corvettes are built for speed, but are far too light for bad weather and tough roads. Speaking of the Corvette, can you tell me about it?

Sure. I have an ’06 Z06.1 have it all prepped up for tak­ing it to the track. I have it lowered a bit, I have bigger brakes on it, Linginfelter air box, harness bar, racing exhaust and belts. I have all of the bells and whistles on it to take it out, and make sure that I am safe on the track and stuff like that when I go out and have some real fun.

I knew a guy going 170 to 180 miles per hour on the road was a closet race driver. He’s getting ready to go on the track. Interesting. Let’s see if he’s ready to compete against serious competition.

Do you have 600 horsepower in the Corvette?

I have 505, but with what I have in it, it probably puts out about 570 right now.

You seem to really like cars.

Yes. I have had a bunch of cars in my time and I just love them. I am a huge NASCAR fan, and any type of racing that is on TV, I am there watching it. I have Speed Channel on at all times!

If you like racing and speed, you will have to come out to Baja and hang out with my team and I during some of the Baja races.

That is funny. My cousin, Mark Fleming, just started doing photography for some of the off-road rally races. He is up in Maine a bunch. I saw some of his photos and it is pretty cool.

Yeah, you get very dirty in off-road racing.

It is unbelievable, yeah.

Back to his cars. Let’s see if he’s ail power and speed or if he’s into style as well.

What is the color combo on your Corvette?

Black on black. Black is the worst color to try and keep clean, but the best color when it is,. It just looks awesome.

You cannot go wrong with black on black.


You made a comment that your Ferrari was a gift to yourself. Do you feel that your career influenced your decision in the types of cars that you have rewarded yourself with?

I think it is one of those personal things. Even when I was growing up as a skater, I was always into cars and things, and I was fascinated with racing. When I thought of racing, it was Corvettes and Ferraris. I used to watch all of the racing on TV, Formula 1, and it was always Ferraris. Everyone wants a Ferrari and I said I gotta have it.

But, what if he wasn’t rich and famous? What if he wasn’t ever a competitive skater?

Let’s say that you were a nine-to-five type of a person. What would your car choice have been?

Nowadays, I might have chosen a hybrid, being as you get better gas mileage with something like a hybrid. My cars do not get the best gas mileage.

That leads me to a question that I was going to ask you. Speaking of hybrids, would you ever own one?

You know I probably would. It all depends. If they made a cooler/faster model, I would be all over it. You think of a hybrid and you look at them, and they are not quite as cool. You know they do not make a Corvette hybrid right now…(CHUCKLE) I like fast cars, but, then again, there is the practical side to everything. Maybe when I settle down and have a family and all of that busi­ness, then I would probably think more along those lines. When shuffling the kids out to soccer practice.

(CHUCKLE) So, you’re talking a mini-van?


How many cars do you think that you have owned throughout your life?

Too many…(CHUCKLE)

Too many nightmares?

Yes…(CHUCKLE)To be honest with you, it would be hard to put an exact number on it. Probably 15, maybe even more. I had an Acura Integra, a Honda Prelude, BMW M3 and a Toyota Supra Turbo.

I see a sporty type of pattern going on here.

I did have a Ford Explorer, a Chevy Tahoe and a Jeep Grand Cherokee for a while. I did have a 1962 Corvette for a while, which was a fun little car, unbelievable. I do not know how the guys that raced them back in the day han­dled them with no power-steering and fighting the wheel the whole time, but they are fun to cruise in.

I had a 1932 Ford Roadster built by Roy Brizio. He has a shop near San Francisco called Brizio Street Rods. I had it built from the ground up and, unfortunately, had to sell it, being as I did not use it much. I decided that I could sell it and let someone else enjoy it and have fun with it. It was fun.

Todd seems to be a speed and racing type guy, and has no practical need for a truck. But he loves vehicles so much, maybe he is a truck guy.

Would you ever own a pick-up truck?

You know, I am sure that I would at some point, maybe to haul my race cars…(CHUCKLE)

We have the Ferrari, the Corvette. Are there any other members currently in the family?

That is all that I have right now. Being in Florida, I typ­ically drive my Corvette every day and bring this baby “Ferrari” out on really nice days. Being down here, there are a lot of those. But, being as the Corvette is in the shop, I am driving my Ferrari,

What I took from our meeting is that Todd gives you every­thing he’s got, all the time. He pushes limits and pushes himself constantly, living life to the fullest. I found out he races a Corvette as a weekend racer, and has an all-con­suming passion and desire to be fast and sporty.

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Barbara Terry interview with Tony Dorsett

In Dallas and NFL circles, Tony Dorsett is a legend. He was Rookie of the Year in the NFL as a Cowboy, win­ning a Super Bowl his first year after winning the College National Championship the previous year. He was the first guy to break a 99-yard run from scrimmage in the NFL, a record he still shares. He was a four-time Pro Bowler. He’s the only guy ever to win a Heisman, College Championship, Super Bowl and be in both the College and NFL Halls of Fame. Though he ended his career with the Denver Broncos, he’s a Cowboy through and through.

What was your first car?

My first car was a 1960 Dodge. It was one of those hand-me-downs from one of my brothers. We called it “The Blue Goose” because it was a big blue Dodge. I don’t remember what kind of Dodge, but it was a big four-door and I had retread tires on it. Every week, sometimes even twice a week, I’d go and get new retread tires. We were in the projects and did not have a whole lot. The springs would break on it and I had a leak in my break lines. I’ll never forget, one day I was trying to hustle a little. I would stand outside by the bars and these elderly people would come out and they would be kind of stumbling. They’d want a ride home. So I had a little taxi service. I’d give them a ride home and they’d give me a few bucks. Back then, you could buy a whole lot of gas. So that was my hustle.

This one lady I was taking home was getting out of the car real slow and I told her, ‘My brake lines are bad. You gotta get out of the car and shut the door because I cannot stop all of the way!’

One day I was at the top of a hill. It looked like it was flat, so when I get to the top it’s not flat and then my car cut off. So my car is flying backwards down this hill. I’m looking backwards and I’m trying to steer and see where I’m going. As I’m flying down the hill, a lot of the guys in the street thought I was trying to chase them

with my car, so they scattered. It got to the point that I was either going to hit these parked cars or these big cement steps going up to somebody’s house. I had to make a choice and I figured my dad would be pretty mad at me if I hit these parked cars, so I went for the steps. I tore them steps up. And guess what? In that Dodge I only had a dent in my bumper, just about the size of a softball.

How fast do you think you were going down that hill backwards?

Well, it felt like I was going 100 miles per hour! I was so scared. But I was probably only going 25 to 30 miles per hour coming down backwards, and picking up speed. I couldn’t stop.

Well, it’s a good thing the steps were there. Back then, driving the “Blue Goose” around, what was your dream car?

My dream car was a Buick Electra 225. We called it a duce and a quarter. I wanted it so bad because they were nice big cars, and clean. Back in the neighbor­hood, some of the older guys had them and they were really sharp cars back then. All I wanted was the duce and a quarter. But, when I got a chance to get a car, I didn’t get it. I got a big Lincoln Town Car.

What was that first prize possession car that you spoiled yourself with after that first big professional con­tract?

When I first got drafted, I bought a dove gray with bur­gundy interior Lincoln Continental with a big old tire kit on the back of it, with some nice little white-wall tires on it. I had the sunroof top, digging the scene and gangster lean. I was big-time when I got that. Then I finally realized that I really didn’t need those big cars and I started getting into sports cars.

Now we were talking. He ran fast. Figured he’s driven fast, too. What did you start driving?

I went to the Porsche Carrera, black. Then I went to a red Porsche Turbo widebody, and then I went to the Mercedes SL. I went to the SL and the SEL, and since then, I’ve been driving Mercedes.

How many cars do you think you’ve had since the origi­nal “Blue Goose?”

About 14 since “The Goose.”

What’s your favorite color combination when it comes to cars?

My favorite is black on black. When you get a black car and it’s shining and you’ve got some wheels on it, you can’t beat it.

But black on black is ugly when it’s dirty.

It is ugly when it’s dirty, you’re right. They look bad. You gotta keep them clean. That’s why I stopped buying black cars, because it was, like, too hard just trying to keep them clean all the time. When I got this Mercedes I have now, I was in the showroom store down at Park Place Mercedes and I was looking at this one, like, wow. I said peanut but­ter and jelly because it is burgundy on the outside and tan on the inside. I saw it on the showroom floor and I just had to have it. When I first got it, someone was giving me smack about it being ‘Redskins colors.’ I said do not call my car Redskins colors. Do not go there with that. This is peanut butter and jelly!

I don’t drive it enough. I need to drive it more because it’s a real nice car. I don’t know what the horsepower is because I never get caught up in that stuff, but all I know is it runs like a spotted-ass ape. It flies. I was going 120 or something like that and I got a ticket.

So, 120. Is that the fastest that you have driven in a car?

Yeah, pulling some G-force. Buckle up!

Come on now! You didn’t completely open up one of those 911s that you had?

Nope. I don’t like to go so fast. I get scared. I think we’re gonna get a blowout or I’m gonna lose control. When you’re on the field, playing, you are in control of your speed. But you’re subservient when you’re behind a steer­ing wheel. It’s a little bit different when you’ve got machin­ery and you don’t have total control over it. It would be okay if I could push the eject button and fly out if I lose control, but you are at the mercy of not knowing where you’ll end up.

Is there a dream car that you’ve never pulled the trigger on?

Yeah, a Bentley. The reason I haven’t done it is, I was just thinking that I could do more with that money than riding in a Bentley. Like I could buy some real estate. I just have a problem spending that much money for an automobile.

What about motorcycles. Have you ever had a Harley?

If I had it my way, I’d have a bike right now. But my wife and daughters won’t let me. When I was coming out of

college, I was back home messing around with some of the boys, and the boys were talking and hanging out, and a boy came by on a Honda. I always wanted to try one, so I asked to let me try riding it and he showed me how to do it. When I was driving, I just happened to close my eyes and squeeze, and I hit the hand brakes. I got in a panic because I was losing control. When you’re losing control, you grip down. When you grip, that’s the problem.

That was my first time, so after that, I went and bought me a bike. I got a Kawasaki 750. I’ll never forget that first bike. I go to the Kawasaki place and we’re up there and they have this little trail where you can ride the bike. That was a lot more power than the Honda, so I didn’t know if I should do it. The guy told me I’d handle it real good. One of my friends I played ball with kept telling me I should get it. So I got the bike and I almost never ended up playing ball again. I was on campus one time and everybody was out there in the yard. I would go out and get on my bike and I’d try to show off a little bit. I took off again and, like I said, when you panic, you grip, and I gripped the handles. In Pittsburgh, we have Fourth Avenue, which goes down like a four-lane street. And we have Fifth Avenue. I was on the Fifth Avenue side and I took off, trying to show off, and I panicked and I gripped. We had a bunch of cars just parked along the street because it’s the city and I turned just at the right minute. If I just would’ve gone a little further, I would’ve gotten hurt. I liked them, though, and I kept riding them. When you see people popping wheelies and driving down alleys they’ve lost respect for the bike. Those are the people you’re gonna see caught in a ditch somewhere or get hurt someday – really bad – because they don’t respect the bike.

It was a part of the NFL contract, riding motorcycles is a no-no. There was this guy on a team who had a bike and he ended up getting hurt Fie went to the playoffs and didn’t get any playoff money. That didn’t worry me too much, that part of it, but what worried me was the fact that going down the highways, the bike was kind of quiet. I changed the pipes on the sucker to let them know I’m coming because I know myself that there’s some blind spots in your mirrors. I’ve almost hit cycles a few times. I’ve kind of drifted away from bikes.

So, what is on your car’s radio while you are cruising around town?


Interesting. All those years in pro sports, you’re a big sports talk radio guy?

I love sports. I do. I don’t really listen to a lot of sports radio anymore, but I’m an old-school guy. I got a lot of old- school music in my car. I listen to some nice jazz on the radio and that kind of stuff. I’m not into all of the hip-hop rap stuff. I’m not really into a whole lot of that.

How old were you when you got your driver’s license?

I was 16 when I got my license. My first driving experi­ence, me and my friend had these girls we were dating. One of my oldest brothers ended up giving me the ‘Blue Goose.’ We were trying to take them back home and they were doing their thing, trying to play cards back there, down at the playground and stuff. I told them they needed to take these girls back home and he gave me the keys and said, ‘Here, take them.’

How old were you?

I was, like, 14.

Was that the first time you were ever behind the wheel?

Yeah. My first time behind the wheel. I almost tore that thing up. We were kind of sneaking with these girls. We were taking them back and we thought it was their par­ents or something that got behind us, and we were taking off. We were on roads I’d never been on in this big old Dodge. We were rolling, but I was scared to death. We were almost hit because some of those back roads had those mailboxes that looked like sawed-off telephone poles. I almost hit seven of those. That was my first driving experience and, from then, on it was smooth sailing.

Is that your favorite car of all time or was there one of those 911s, maybe, that was your favorite? Let’s say, when you’re thinking about all the cars that you had. what car do you think brings the biggest smile to your face?

The ‘Blue Goose.’

Because of all the funny stories, right?

Yeah. But now I appreciate my S550 more so. The SL500 was a nice car, my Porsches are nice-looking, but when you’re in traffic, I’m, like, enough of this. It used to hurt the bottom of my foot, using the clutch so much. I like this Mercedes sedan, ‘Peanut Butter and Jelly.’ I do.

Do you have anything going on in your life right now that you want to talk about like a charity?

I have a great charity going on right now called the McGuire Memorial Foundation. I’ve had a golf round every year for the last 17 years in the Pittsburgh area. It’s called the McGuire Memorial Foundation Tony Dorsett Celebrity Golf Outing. It’s for special-needs kids. When we started this thing, we had about 98 kids in the home that couldn’t walk or talk. It’s supported by the state and we have the nuns that run it up there. It’s a bad situation from the kids’ perspective, but it’s a great charity because it touches a lot of people. I tell my sponsors that, to understand my passion, you just need to take a trip to the home. If you take one trip to that home, it’ll cause something to touch you and you’re going to wanna do anything you can, whatever you can, for that home and those kids.

Do you have any favorite road trips that stick out in your mind, either as a kid or right now?

It wasn’t in a car. I had rented a 40-foot tricked-out RV last summer for a two-week trip. It was my oldest daughter’s last summer with us because she’s gonna be going to school at Oklahoma State in June for bas­ketball. We were on the road and we met up with them in Kentucky, and we went to South Carolina, up to Pittsburgh. Then we came back up through the Virginia area. We had my nephew and he drives 18- wheelers, so he was helping me drive on the way back. It was my wife, my daughters, one of my daugh­ter’s teammates, and we were rolling.

That is fun stuff. Are you going to hit the road again in an RV?

Oh, I loved it, especially with family because it’s so much quality time and time to get reconnected. When you’re in an RV, you have everything there. We cooked a bunch of food and had a refrigerator. You have the restroom, you have everything set. It’s like a house on wheels, so you get to spend a lot of quality time with your family. It’s really great. You do what you want to do, you travel how you wanna travel. If you wanna stop in this town, you can stop in this town. We did one before. We went down to Myrtle Beach and had a fun time. But we stayed at the beach too long. We were gonna come back through Arkansas and take them to the presidential libraries and everything up in Arkansas, and go to Hot Springs, but we couldn’t do it because we stayed at the beach too long.

That gives you something to do on your next RV road trip!

But next time I wanna go west. I’ve been east twice. Now I wanna go west.

Having grown up in Dallas, I was very honored to meet Tony. What I found was a very nice, gentle man who was relaxed and very interesting. I first met him at a Cowboys playoff game that Too Tall Jones had treated me to inside an amaz­ing suite at the new Cowboys Stadium. After we inter­viewed him and took his photos, we grabbed some lunch with him at one of his favorite Cajun restaurants.